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Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor Antique .45-70 Unusual Rear Sight
Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor Antique .45-70 Unusual Rear Sight
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Guns International #: 101316610
Seller's Inventory #: 19-4259
Category - Springfield Rifles - Trapdoor
- Military Rifles - US
Seller's Information
When emailing or calling sellers direct,
please mention that you saw their listing on GunsInternational.com
Seller: Shooter's Supply, LLC.
Member Since: 3/16/16
First Name: Patrick
Last Name: Brown
State:
Tennessee
Zip: 37343
Country: United States
Phone: (423) 875-4868
Active Listings: 92
Total Listings: 1325
Seller Type:FFL Dealer
Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. No returns on new firearms.
We normally ship USPS Priority Mail which should be 2-day ship. Shipping is actual cost with a minimum of $30.00 for pistols and $50.00 for rifles/shotguns to ship to most of the 48 contiguous states. Shipping to Alaska may require an extra fee. Shipping insurance is available upon request for an extra fee. We cannot do international sales. As of November 2019, we no longer ship guns to California and Hawaii.
We normally ship USPS Priority Mail which should be 2-day ship. Shipping is actual cost with a minimum of $30.00 for pistols and $50.00 for rifles/shotguns to ship to most of the 48 contiguous states. Shipping to Alaska may require an extra fee. Shipping insurance is available upon request for an extra fee. We cannot do international sales. As of November 2019, we no longer ship guns to California and Hawaii.
Payment Methods: Visa, Master Card, American Express, USPS Money Order. NO CREDIT CARD FEES!!!
About Us: We are a small family owned business located in Hixson, Tennessee. Do you have firearms at home collecting dust? We have a lively consignment business. Our fee is 20% with a $50 minimum. Firearms are consigned for a an average period of 180 days but the length of period is negotiable. We also do handgun carry permit classes for the state of Tennessee. We have a nice indoor shooting range with reasonable rates. Please check us out at shooterssupply.
Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor Antique .45-70 Unusual Rear Sight
Description:
This is a very special find. It is an original Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle. According to trapdoorcollector, the designation, Model 1884, is somewhat “nebulous”. The changes that are associated with this model all occurred before or after 1884. For example, the trigger associated with the model is serrated, but that change occurred prior to its introduction in 1883. Likewise, the Buffington rear sight was not perfected and used on the gun until 1885. Also, the breech block which is dated "1884" did not appear on guns until 1887. So, there were no obvious changes that occurred with the beginning of 1884. The principal feature of the Buffington sight was a rack and pinion style windage adjustment. Unlike previous sights, the base was not used for any position other than point blank. The raised leaf had graduations from 200 to 1400 yards. A new barrel band was also designed to accommodate this new sight so that it could lie flat in the point-blank position. Marksmen generally preferred the new sight, but the regular troops considered it to be an annoyance. This rifle is in good condition overall but is somewhat odd. It features an unusual rear sight completely different from the Buffington though the rear barrel band does have the cutout for the new sight (to lie flat). The ears have a high arch with curving notches similar to the low arch rear sight with their angle-cut notches. The plate cover for the slider does not have the usual letter-M shape and has two pins to hold it on rather than the usual single pin. The arches feature the numbers 1-4, the top of the sight has 5-8, and the side of the left arm has the number 9 on it for a total of 10 settings (0-9). An exhaustive online and book search has yielded no images or information on this type of rear sight. Any information on this rear sight system would be appreciated. The sight is also odd since the rifle is marked “1884” which means it should have left the arsenal after 1887. If that is correct, then this rifle left the factory in 1889. The area around the serial number has some minor pitting so the first digit is not visible (or was never stamped). The rest can be read as “77184”. If the first number was “4”, this would bear out the supposition that the rifle was built in 1889. The older-style sight being present might be explained by the negative reception from the regular troops, and so the present sight might have been installed on this rifle for that reason. Or, it could just be an experimental rear sight. The bore is difficult to photograph with my camera. I can’t get a good picture that accurately shows its condition. It has some fine pitting in small patches. Our gunsmith said it would shoot fine with paper patched bullets but might give leading with unpatched bullets. The eagle crest on the right side of the receiver as well as “U.S. Springfield” are still very visible. The breechblock still states: “U.S. Model 1884” though the number “1” is hard to see due to light pitting. The stock is, of course, a little worn. The stock cartouche is gone, sadly. There are a few nicks and dings, particularly on the left side which can be seen in the pictures. The stock appears to have been repaired in the past on the sides of the forearm. The metal finish is worn but pitting has been kept to a minimum. Overall, this Trapdoor is in good condition considering its age. It is after all, roughly 130 years old! Provided the owner is using good brass with a 500-grain lead bullet and 70 grains of black powder, or substitute, this Trapdoor is in certainly in shootable condition. This would be an excellent addition to any military rifle enthusiast’s collection.
SOLD
Manufacturer: Springfield Arsenal
Model: Model 1884 Rifle
Serial Number: 477184 (?)
Caliber Info: .45-70-500 aka .45-70 Government
Bore: Rifled
Condition: Antique - Good
Barrels: 32.625 inches (829mm)
Action: Trapdoor, breech-loader
Triggers: Serrated
Stock: Wood
Fore End: Wood
Butt Pad: Metal Plate
LOP: 13.5 inches (343mm)
Finish: Patina
Sights: Flip-up elevator rear, Shark-fin front, sight radius 25 inches (635mm)
Manufacture Date: c. 1889
Description:
This is a very special find. It is an original Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle. According to trapdoorcollector, the designation, Model 1884, is somewhat “nebulous”. The changes that are associated with this model all occurred before or after 1884. For example, the trigger associated with the model is serrated, but that change occurred prior to its introduction in 1883. Likewise, the Buffington rear sight was not perfected and used on the gun until 1885. Also, the breech block which is dated "1884" did not appear on guns until 1887. So, there were no obvious changes that occurred with the beginning of 1884. The principal feature of the Buffington sight was a rack and pinion style windage adjustment. Unlike previous sights, the base was not used for any position other than point blank. The raised leaf had graduations from 200 to 1400 yards. A new barrel band was also designed to accommodate this new sight so that it could lie flat in the point-blank position. Marksmen generally preferred the new sight, but the regular troops considered it to be an annoyance. This rifle is in good condition overall but is somewhat odd. It features an unusual rear sight completely different from the Buffington though the rear barrel band does have the cutout for the new sight (to lie flat). The ears have a high arch with curving notches similar to the low arch rear sight with their angle-cut notches. The plate cover for the slider does not have the usual letter-M shape and has two pins to hold it on rather than the usual single pin. The arches feature the numbers 1-4, the top of the sight has 5-8, and the side of the left arm has the number 9 on it for a total of 10 settings (0-9). An exhaustive online and book search has yielded no images or information on this type of rear sight. Any information on this rear sight system would be appreciated. The sight is also odd since the rifle is marked “1884” which means it should have left the arsenal after 1887. If that is correct, then this rifle left the factory in 1889. The area around the serial number has some minor pitting so the first digit is not visible (or was never stamped). The rest can be read as “77184”. If the first number was “4”, this would bear out the supposition that the rifle was built in 1889. The older-style sight being present might be explained by the negative reception from the regular troops, and so the present sight might have been installed on this rifle for that reason. Or, it could just be an experimental rear sight. The bore is difficult to photograph with my camera. I can’t get a good picture that accurately shows its condition. It has some fine pitting in small patches. Our gunsmith said it would shoot fine with paper patched bullets but might give leading with unpatched bullets. The eagle crest on the right side of the receiver as well as “U.S. Springfield” are still very visible. The breechblock still states: “U.S. Model 1884” though the number “1” is hard to see due to light pitting. The stock is, of course, a little worn. The stock cartouche is gone, sadly. There are a few nicks and dings, particularly on the left side which can be seen in the pictures. The stock appears to have been repaired in the past on the sides of the forearm. The metal finish is worn but pitting has been kept to a minimum. Overall, this Trapdoor is in good condition considering its age. It is after all, roughly 130 years old! Provided the owner is using good brass with a 500-grain lead bullet and 70 grains of black powder, or substitute, this Trapdoor is in certainly in shootable condition. This would be an excellent addition to any military rifle enthusiast’s collection.
SOLD
Manufacturer: Springfield Arsenal
Model: Model 1884 Rifle
Serial Number: 477184 (?)
Caliber Info: .45-70-500 aka .45-70 Government
Bore: Rifled
Condition: Antique - Good
Barrels: 32.625 inches (829mm)
Action: Trapdoor, breech-loader
Triggers: Serrated
Stock: Wood
Fore End: Wood
Butt Pad: Metal Plate
LOP: 13.5 inches (343mm)
Finish: Patina
Sights: Flip-up elevator rear, Shark-fin front, sight radius 25 inches (635mm)
Manufacture Date: c. 1889
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Guns International #: 101316610
Category - Springfield Rifles - Trapdoor
- Military Rifles - US
Seller's Information
When emailing or calling sellers direct,
please mention that you saw their listing on GunsInternational.com
Seller: Shooter's Supply, LLC.
Member Since: 3/16/16
First Name: Patrick
Last Name: Brown
State:
Tennessee
Zip: 37343
Country: United States
Phone: (423) 875-4868
Active Listings: 92
Total Listings: 1325
Seller Type:FFL Dealer
Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. No returns on new firearms.
We normally ship USPS Priority Mail which should be 2-day ship. Shipping is actual cost with a minimum of $30.00 for pistols and $50.00 for rifles/shotguns to ship to most of the 48 contiguous states. Shipping to Alaska may require an extra fee. Shipping insurance is available upon request for an extra fee. We cannot do international sales. As of November 2019, we no longer ship guns to California and Hawaii. Payment Methods: Visa, Master Card, American Express, USPS Money Order. NO CREDIT CARD FEES!!!
About Us: We are a small family owned business located in Hixson, Tennessee. Do you have firearms at home collecting dust? We have a lively consignment business. Our fee is 20% with a $50 minimum. Firearms are consigned for a an average period of 180 days but the length of period is negotiable. We also do handgun carry permit classes for the state of Tennessee. We have a nice indoor shooting range with reasonable rates. Please check us out at shooterssupply.
Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor Antique .45-70 Unusual Rear Sight
Description: This is a very special find. It is an original Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle. According to trapdoorcollector, the designation, Model 1884, is somewhat “nebulous”. The changes that are associated with this model all occurred before or after 1884. For example, the trigger associated with the model is serrated, but that change occurred prior to its introduction in 1883. Likewise, the Buffington rear sight was not perfected and used on the gun until 1885. Also, the breech block which is dated "1884" did not appear on guns until 1887. So, there were no obvious changes that occurred with the beginning of 1884. The principal feature of the Buffington sight was a rack and pinion style windage adjustment. Unlike previous sights, the base was not used for any position other than point blank. The raised leaf had graduations from 200 to 1400 yards. A new barrel band was also designed to accommodate this new sight so that it could lie flat in the point-blank position. Marksmen generally preferred the new sight, but the regular troops considered it to be an annoyance. This rifle is in good condition overall but is somewhat odd. It features an unusual rear sight completely different from the Buffington though the rear barrel band does have the cutout for the new sight (to lie flat). The ears have a high arch with curving notches similar to the low arch rear sight with their angle-cut notches. The plate cover for the slider does not have the usual letter-M shape and has two pins to hold it on rather than the usual single pin. The arches feature the numbers 1-4, the top of the sight has 5-8, and the side of the left arm has the number 9 on it for a total of 10 settings (0-9). An exhaustive online and book search has yielded no images or information on this type of rear sight. Any information on this rear sight system would be appreciated. The sight is also odd since the rifle is marked “1884” which means it should have left the arsenal after 1887. If that is correct, then this rifle left the factory in 1889. The area around the serial number has some minor pitting so the first digit is not visible (or was never stamped). The rest can be read as “77184”. If the first number was “4”, this would bear out the supposition that the rifle was built in 1889. The older-style sight being present might be explained by the negative reception from the regular troops, and so the present sight might have been installed on this rifle for that reason. Or, it could just be an experimental rear sight. The bore is difficult to photograph with my camera. I can’t get a good picture that accurately shows its condition. It has some fine pitting in small patches. Our gunsmith said it would shoot fine with paper patched bullets but might give leading with unpatched bullets. The eagle crest on the right side of the receiver as well as “U.S. Springfield” are still very visible. The breechblock still states: “U.S. Model 1884” though the number “1” is hard to see due to light pitting. The stock is, of course, a little worn. The stock cartouche is gone, sadly. There are a few nicks and dings, particularly on the left side which can be seen in the pictures. The stock appears to have been repaired in the past on the sides of the forearm. The metal finish is worn but pitting has been kept to a minimum. Overall, this Trapdoor is in good condition considering its age. It is after all, roughly 130 years old! Provided the owner is using good brass with a 500-grain lead bullet and 70 grains of black powder, or substitute, this Trapdoor is in certainly in shootable condition. This would be an excellent addition to any military rifle enthusiast’s collection. SOLD Manufacturer: Springfield Arsenal Model: Model 1884 Rifle Serial Number: 477184 (?) Caliber Info: .45-70-500 aka .45-70 Government Bore: Rifled Condition: Antique - Good Barrels: 32.625 inches (829mm) Action: Trapdoor, breech-loader Triggers: Serrated Stock: Wood Fore End: Wood Butt Pad: Metal Plate LOP: 13.5 inches (343mm) Finish: Patina Sights: Flip-up elevator rear, Shark-fin front, sight radius 25 inches (635mm) Manufacture Date: c. 1889 |
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Guns International #: 101316610
Seller's Inventory #: 19-4259
Category - Springfield Rifles - Trapdoor
- Military Rifles - US
Seller's Information
When emailing or calling sellers direct,
please mention that you saw their listing on GunsInternational.com
Seller: Shooter's Supply, LLC.
Member Since: 3/16/16
First Name: Patrick
Last Name: Brown
State:
Tennessee
Zip: 37343
Country: United States
Phone: (423) 875-4868
Active Listings: 92
Total Listings: 1325
Seller Type:FFL Dealer
Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. No returns on new firearms.
We normally ship USPS Priority Mail which should be 2-day ship. Shipping is actual cost with a minimum of $30.00 for pistols and $50.00 for rifles/shotguns to ship to most of the 48 contiguous states. Shipping to Alaska may require an extra fee. Shipping insurance is available upon request for an extra fee. We cannot do international sales. As of November 2019, we no longer ship guns to California and Hawaii.
We normally ship USPS Priority Mail which should be 2-day ship. Shipping is actual cost with a minimum of $30.00 for pistols and $50.00 for rifles/shotguns to ship to most of the 48 contiguous states. Shipping to Alaska may require an extra fee. Shipping insurance is available upon request for an extra fee. We cannot do international sales. As of November 2019, we no longer ship guns to California and Hawaii.
Payment Methods: Visa, Master Card, American Express, USPS Money Order. NO CREDIT CARD FEES!!!
About Us: We are a small family owned business located in Hixson, Tennessee. Do you have firearms at home collecting dust? We have a lively consignment business. Our fee is 20% with a $50 minimum. Firearms are consigned for a an average period of 180 days but the length of period is negotiable. We also do handgun carry permit classes for the state of Tennessee. We have a nice indoor shooting range with reasonable rates. Please check us out at shooterssupply.
Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor Antique .45-70 Unusual Rear Sight
Description:
This is a very special find. It is an original Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle. According to trapdoorcollector, the designation, Model 1884, is somewhat “nebulous”. The changes that are associated with this model all occurred before or after 1884. For example, the trigger associated with the model is serrated, but that change occurred prior to its introduction in 1883. Likewise, the Buffington rear sight was not perfected and used on the gun until 1885. Also, the breech block which is dated "1884" did not appear on guns until 1887. So, there were no obvious changes that occurred with the beginning of 1884. The principal feature of the Buffington sight was a rack and pinion style windage adjustment. Unlike previous sights, the base was not used for any position other than point blank. The raised leaf had graduations from 200 to 1400 yards. A new barrel band was also designed to accommodate this new sight so that it could lie flat in the point-blank position. Marksmen generally preferred the new sight, but the regular troops considered it to be an annoyance. This rifle is in good condition overall but is somewhat odd. It features an unusual rear sight completely different from the Buffington though the rear barrel band does have the cutout for the new sight (to lie flat). The ears have a high arch with curving notches similar to the low arch rear sight with their angle-cut notches. The plate cover for the slider does not have the usual letter-M shape and has two pins to hold it on rather than the usual single pin. The arches feature the numbers 1-4, the top of the sight has 5-8, and the side of the left arm has the number 9 on it for a total of 10 settings (0-9). An exhaustive online and book search has yielded no images or information on this type of rear sight. Any information on this rear sight system would be appreciated. The sight is also odd since the rifle is marked “1884” which means it should have left the arsenal after 1887. If that is correct, then this rifle left the factory in 1889. The area around the serial number has some minor pitting so the first digit is not visible (or was never stamped). The rest can be read as “77184”. If the first number was “4”, this would bear out the supposition that the rifle was built in 1889. The older-style sight being present might be explained by the negative reception from the regular troops, and so the present sight might have been installed on this rifle for that reason. Or, it could just be an experimental rear sight. The bore is difficult to photograph with my camera. I can’t get a good picture that accurately shows its condition. It has some fine pitting in small patches. Our gunsmith said it would shoot fine with paper patched bullets but might give leading with unpatched bullets. The eagle crest on the right side of the receiver as well as “U.S. Springfield” are still very visible. The breechblock still states: “U.S. Model 1884” though the number “1” is hard to see due to light pitting. The stock is, of course, a little worn. The stock cartouche is gone, sadly. There are a few nicks and dings, particularly on the left side which can be seen in the pictures. The stock appears to have been repaired in the past on the sides of the forearm. The metal finish is worn but pitting has been kept to a minimum. Overall, this Trapdoor is in good condition considering its age. It is after all, roughly 130 years old! Provided the owner is using good brass with a 500-grain lead bullet and 70 grains of black powder, or substitute, this Trapdoor is in certainly in shootable condition. This would be an excellent addition to any military rifle enthusiast’s collection.
SOLD
Manufacturer: Springfield Arsenal
Model: Model 1884 Rifle
Serial Number: 477184 (?)
Caliber Info: .45-70-500 aka .45-70 Government
Bore: Rifled
Condition: Antique - Good
Barrels: 32.625 inches (829mm)
Action: Trapdoor, breech-loader
Triggers: Serrated
Stock: Wood
Fore End: Wood
Butt Pad: Metal Plate
LOP: 13.5 inches (343mm)
Finish: Patina
Sights: Flip-up elevator rear, Shark-fin front, sight radius 25 inches (635mm)
Manufacture Date: c. 1889
Description:
This is a very special find. It is an original Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle. According to trapdoorcollector, the designation, Model 1884, is somewhat “nebulous”. The changes that are associated with this model all occurred before or after 1884. For example, the trigger associated with the model is serrated, but that change occurred prior to its introduction in 1883. Likewise, the Buffington rear sight was not perfected and used on the gun until 1885. Also, the breech block which is dated "1884" did not appear on guns until 1887. So, there were no obvious changes that occurred with the beginning of 1884. The principal feature of the Buffington sight was a rack and pinion style windage adjustment. Unlike previous sights, the base was not used for any position other than point blank. The raised leaf had graduations from 200 to 1400 yards. A new barrel band was also designed to accommodate this new sight so that it could lie flat in the point-blank position. Marksmen generally preferred the new sight, but the regular troops considered it to be an annoyance. This rifle is in good condition overall but is somewhat odd. It features an unusual rear sight completely different from the Buffington though the rear barrel band does have the cutout for the new sight (to lie flat). The ears have a high arch with curving notches similar to the low arch rear sight with their angle-cut notches. The plate cover for the slider does not have the usual letter-M shape and has two pins to hold it on rather than the usual single pin. The arches feature the numbers 1-4, the top of the sight has 5-8, and the side of the left arm has the number 9 on it for a total of 10 settings (0-9). An exhaustive online and book search has yielded no images or information on this type of rear sight. Any information on this rear sight system would be appreciated. The sight is also odd since the rifle is marked “1884” which means it should have left the arsenal after 1887. If that is correct, then this rifle left the factory in 1889. The area around the serial number has some minor pitting so the first digit is not visible (or was never stamped). The rest can be read as “77184”. If the first number was “4”, this would bear out the supposition that the rifle was built in 1889. The older-style sight being present might be explained by the negative reception from the regular troops, and so the present sight might have been installed on this rifle for that reason. Or, it could just be an experimental rear sight. The bore is difficult to photograph with my camera. I can’t get a good picture that accurately shows its condition. It has some fine pitting in small patches. Our gunsmith said it would shoot fine with paper patched bullets but might give leading with unpatched bullets. The eagle crest on the right side of the receiver as well as “U.S. Springfield” are still very visible. The breechblock still states: “U.S. Model 1884” though the number “1” is hard to see due to light pitting. The stock is, of course, a little worn. The stock cartouche is gone, sadly. There are a few nicks and dings, particularly on the left side which can be seen in the pictures. The stock appears to have been repaired in the past on the sides of the forearm. The metal finish is worn but pitting has been kept to a minimum. Overall, this Trapdoor is in good condition considering its age. It is after all, roughly 130 years old! Provided the owner is using good brass with a 500-grain lead bullet and 70 grains of black powder, or substitute, this Trapdoor is in certainly in shootable condition. This would be an excellent addition to any military rifle enthusiast’s collection.
SOLD
Manufacturer: Springfield Arsenal
Model: Model 1884 Rifle
Serial Number: 477184 (?)
Caliber Info: .45-70-500 aka .45-70 Government
Bore: Rifled
Condition: Antique - Good
Barrels: 32.625 inches (829mm)
Action: Trapdoor, breech-loader
Triggers: Serrated
Stock: Wood
Fore End: Wood
Butt Pad: Metal Plate
LOP: 13.5 inches (343mm)
Finish: Patina
Sights: Flip-up elevator rear, Shark-fin front, sight radius 25 inches (635mm)
Manufacture Date: c. 1889
Guns International #: 101316610
Seller's Inventory #: 19-4259
Guns International #: 101316610
Seller's Inventory #: 19-4259
Category - Springfield Rifles - Trapdoor
- Military Rifles - US
Seller's Information
When emailing or calling sellers direct,
please mention that you saw their listing on GunsInternational.com
Seller: Shooter's Supply, LLC.
Member Since: 3/16/16
First Name: Patrick
Last Name: Brown
State:
Tennessee
Zip: 37343
Country: United States
Phone: (423) 875-4868
Active Listings: 92
Total Listings: 1325
Seller Type:FFL Dealer
Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. No returns on new firearms.
We normally ship USPS Priority Mail which should be 2-day ship. Shipping is actual cost with a minimum of $30.00 for pistols and $50.00 for rifles/shotguns to ship to most of the 48 contiguous states. Shipping to Alaska may require an extra fee. Shipping insurance is available upon request for an extra fee. We cannot do international sales. As of November 2019, we no longer ship guns to California and Hawaii.
We normally ship USPS Priority Mail which should be 2-day ship. Shipping is actual cost with a minimum of $30.00 for pistols and $50.00 for rifles/shotguns to ship to most of the 48 contiguous states. Shipping to Alaska may require an extra fee. Shipping insurance is available upon request for an extra fee. We cannot do international sales. As of November 2019, we no longer ship guns to California and Hawaii.
Payment Methods: Visa, Master Card, American Express, USPS Money Order. NO CREDIT CARD FEES!!!
About Us: We are a small family owned business located in Hixson, Tennessee. Do you have firearms at home collecting dust? We have a lively consignment business. Our fee is 20% with a $50 minimum. Firearms are consigned for a an average period of 180 days but the length of period is negotiable. We also do handgun carry permit classes for the state of Tennessee. We have a nice indoor shooting range with reasonable rates. Please check us out at shooterssupply.
Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor Antique .45-70 Unusual Rear Sight
Description:
This is a very special find. It is an original Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle. According to trapdoorcollector, the designation, Model 1884, is somewhat “nebulous”. The changes that are associated with this model all occurred before or after 1884. For example, the trigger associated with the model is serrated, but that change occurred prior to its introduction in 1883. Likewise, the Buffington rear sight was not perfected and used on the gun until 1885. Also, the breech block which is dated "1884" did not appear on guns until 1887. So, there were no obvious changes that occurred with the beginning of 1884. The principal feature of the Buffington sight was a rack and pinion style windage adjustment. Unlike previous sights, the base was not used for any position other than point blank. The raised leaf had graduations from 200 to 1400 yards. A new barrel band was also designed to accommodate this new sight so that it could lie flat in the point-blank position. Marksmen generally preferred the new sight, but the regular troops considered it to be an annoyance. This rifle is in good condition overall but is somewhat odd. It features an unusual rear sight completely different from the Buffington though the rear barrel band does have the cutout for the new sight (to lie flat). The ears have a high arch with curving notches similar to the low arch rear sight with their angle-cut notches. The plate cover for the slider does not have the usual letter-M shape and has two pins to hold it on rather than the usual single pin. The arches feature the numbers 1-4, the top of the sight has 5-8, and the side of the left arm has the number 9 on it for a total of 10 settings (0-9). An exhaustive online and book search has yielded no images or information on this type of rear sight. Any information on this rear sight system would be appreciated. The sight is also odd since the rifle is marked “1884” which means it should have left the arsenal after 1887. If that is correct, then this rifle left the factory in 1889. The area around the serial number has some minor pitting so the first digit is not visible (or was never stamped). The rest can be read as “77184”. If the first number was “4”, this would bear out the supposition that the rifle was built in 1889. The older-style sight being present might be explained by the negative reception from the regular troops, and so the present sight might have been installed on this rifle for that reason. Or, it could just be an experimental rear sight. The bore is difficult to photograph with my camera. I can’t get a good picture that accurately shows its condition. It has some fine pitting in small patches. Our gunsmith said it would shoot fine with paper patched bullets but might give leading with unpatched bullets. The eagle crest on the right side of the receiver as well as “U.S. Springfield” are still very visible. The breechblock still states: “U.S. Model 1884” though the number “1” is hard to see due to light pitting. The stock is, of course, a little worn. The stock cartouche is gone, sadly. There are a few nicks and dings, particularly on the left side which can be seen in the pictures. The stock appears to have been repaired in the past on the sides of the forearm. The metal finish is worn but pitting has been kept to a minimum. Overall, this Trapdoor is in good condition considering its age. It is after all, roughly 130 years old! Provided the owner is using good brass with a 500-grain lead bullet and 70 grains of black powder, or substitute, this Trapdoor is in certainly in shootable condition. This would be an excellent addition to any military rifle enthusiast’s collection.
SOLD
Manufacturer: Springfield Arsenal
Model: Model 1884 Rifle
Serial Number: 477184 (?)
Caliber Info: .45-70-500 aka .45-70 Government
Bore: Rifled
Condition: Antique - Good
Barrels: 32.625 inches (829mm)
Action: Trapdoor, breech-loader
Triggers: Serrated
Stock: Wood
Fore End: Wood
Butt Pad: Metal Plate
LOP: 13.5 inches (343mm)
Finish: Patina
Sights: Flip-up elevator rear, Shark-fin front, sight radius 25 inches (635mm)
Manufacture Date: c. 1889
Description:
This is a very special find. It is an original Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle. According to trapdoorcollector, the designation, Model 1884, is somewhat “nebulous”. The changes that are associated with this model all occurred before or after 1884. For example, the trigger associated with the model is serrated, but that change occurred prior to its introduction in 1883. Likewise, the Buffington rear sight was not perfected and used on the gun until 1885. Also, the breech block which is dated "1884" did not appear on guns until 1887. So, there were no obvious changes that occurred with the beginning of 1884. The principal feature of the Buffington sight was a rack and pinion style windage adjustment. Unlike previous sights, the base was not used for any position other than point blank. The raised leaf had graduations from 200 to 1400 yards. A new barrel band was also designed to accommodate this new sight so that it could lie flat in the point-blank position. Marksmen generally preferred the new sight, but the regular troops considered it to be an annoyance. This rifle is in good condition overall but is somewhat odd. It features an unusual rear sight completely different from the Buffington though the rear barrel band does have the cutout for the new sight (to lie flat). The ears have a high arch with curving notches similar to the low arch rear sight with their angle-cut notches. The plate cover for the slider does not have the usual letter-M shape and has two pins to hold it on rather than the usual single pin. The arches feature the numbers 1-4, the top of the sight has 5-8, and the side of the left arm has the number 9 on it for a total of 10 settings (0-9). An exhaustive online and book search has yielded no images or information on this type of rear sight. Any information on this rear sight system would be appreciated. The sight is also odd since the rifle is marked “1884” which means it should have left the arsenal after 1887. If that is correct, then this rifle left the factory in 1889. The area around the serial number has some minor pitting so the first digit is not visible (or was never stamped). The rest can be read as “77184”. If the first number was “4”, this would bear out the supposition that the rifle was built in 1889. The older-style sight being present might be explained by the negative reception from the regular troops, and so the present sight might have been installed on this rifle for that reason. Or, it could just be an experimental rear sight. The bore is difficult to photograph with my camera. I can’t get a good picture that accurately shows its condition. It has some fine pitting in small patches. Our gunsmith said it would shoot fine with paper patched bullets but might give leading with unpatched bullets. The eagle crest on the right side of the receiver as well as “U.S. Springfield” are still very visible. The breechblock still states: “U.S. Model 1884” though the number “1” is hard to see due to light pitting. The stock is, of course, a little worn. The stock cartouche is gone, sadly. There are a few nicks and dings, particularly on the left side which can be seen in the pictures. The stock appears to have been repaired in the past on the sides of the forearm. The metal finish is worn but pitting has been kept to a minimum. Overall, this Trapdoor is in good condition considering its age. It is after all, roughly 130 years old! Provided the owner is using good brass with a 500-grain lead bullet and 70 grains of black powder, or substitute, this Trapdoor is in certainly in shootable condition. This would be an excellent addition to any military rifle enthusiast’s collection.
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Manufacturer: Springfield Arsenal
Model: Model 1884 Rifle
Serial Number: 477184 (?)
Caliber Info: .45-70-500 aka .45-70 Government
Bore: Rifled
Condition: Antique - Good
Barrels: 32.625 inches (829mm)
Action: Trapdoor, breech-loader
Triggers: Serrated
Stock: Wood
Fore End: Wood
Butt Pad: Metal Plate
LOP: 13.5 inches (343mm)
Finish: Patina
Sights: Flip-up elevator rear, Shark-fin front, sight radius 25 inches (635mm)
Manufacture Date: c. 1889
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